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     Scott Corder Moderator Username: Scott_corder Post Number: 24 Registered: 01-2005 Rating: N/A |
Lance, You are probably misreading the Rules re the size of a #1 jib. The Class Rules only allow a #1 headsail of up to 100 percent. The 110 percent you may be thinking of regards an allowance the Class has established for short-rig versions of the 9.1 Meter: the length of the spinnaker pole and width of spinnakers can be up to 110 percent of the standard- rig dimension. | ||
| Lance Staughton New member Username: Twospeed Post Number: 22 Registered: 01-2001 Rating: N/A |
I'm getting a New #3 and was reading some past posts and the Michagan "rules". I notice a limit of 110% in the rules and a comment(post) of by someone implying the rule was up to 100%. Was this ammended ? Do most people have a 100% ? My sailmaker(s) both came up with 98% #3's - sail area about 235 sq. feet. Does the 110 sheet okay thru the shrouds ? I have worn out my old #2 (125%) so am thinking the 110 might better fit my needs ( my old #3 turns out to be pretty small -around 82%). Lance Staughton Symbiosis # 51 | ||
| Mike Bergmann Unregistered guest Rating: N/A |
Shooting Star (short rig) carries a light/medium #1 (155%, Kevlar/Mylar, cut fairly full), a heavy #1 (147%, same fabric, cut flat), and a dacron blade. The 155% starts to overpower around 14 knots apparent. The heavy #1 is too slow below 12 apparent, and is excellent up to 22 apparent. We can take gusts to 27 or 28 and stay in control. I also have an old heavy #1 that was cut down to 135% with a short hoist as a #2 roller furler. This is OK in the mid 20's, but I will be using the #3 (100%) at 30 apparent. I carry a 3/4 oz. all-purpose spinnaker and a 1/2 oz. runner. In our light conditions the 1/2 oz. is very useful, but you can't use it on a power reach or you will blow it out. We did use it at 65 degrees apparent with about 3 knots apparent once this year, and won easily. My crew said that was the first time they had ever had to skirt a spinnaker! | ||
| Ed Montano Unregistered guest Rating: N/A |
Entropy Carries a 155% to about 18-20 apparent, with a full compliment of crew. As the wind comes up we move the car back to where the bottom of the #1 is tight against the shrouds, if need be we spill off of the top. We have a very small (by our competitors standards) #2. I believe it is about a 120%. This sail seems to be a bit fatter then our blade (100%) and gives us a surprising amount of punch in chop when the 3 does not have enough power. This particular sail plane seems to be competitive. Although Katos EXTREMELY light #1 is a real force in light winds. | ||
| Don Rychlinski (Kato) Rating: N/A |
Kato carries a light No.1, mylar good to about 6-8 true. A 148 lots of kevlar and fairly flat, carry that to about 16-17 true. A 110 mylar above that. After that it's a outhaul on the 3 or back to the bar. | ||
| Alan Szmania Rating: N/A |
We race Unruly out of Edgewater YC in Cleveland, Ohio. A typical racing year includes approximately 30 club races and 6-8 regattas. Our headsail inventory presently includes a #1 (152%) genoa and a #3 genoa. Both are UK Tape Drive sails and they have been very good. Last year we also carried a #2, but that sail was retired due to its condition. We just completed a regatta this past weekend and unfortunately all three races were in the wind range right between the #1 and #3. What are other 9.1's, that are actively racing, carrying in their headsail inventory. | ||
| Gary Hendrickson Rating: N/A |
Holy cow, there IS wind on Lake Erie after all (My home town is Erie, PA). Class rules, which are adhered to in our 9.1 Lake Michigan Championship series, allow for three headsails - a #1 up to 155%, a "#2" less than 150% LP and a #3 up to 100% LP. Many 9.1 sailors use a #2 of 135 - 140%. But I'm not sure this LP sheets well on the boat, and I prefer a "heavy #1" with an LP of 145-150%, shaped relatively flat - helps to get better acceleration in chop. NOMAD #094 | ||
| Rob Weible Rating: N/A |
I am surprised by Nomad's happiness with a relatively flat genoa in chop. We carry our 155%Sobstad Genesis as high up into the wind range as 16-17 true, which the boat seems to like if we have enough weight aboard, then move to a number 3 when it gets heavier, which the boat really likes. We generally fatten the 155% when we encounter chop, though, especially in under 12 kts. of breeze. What makes a relatively flat cut work better? Shingebiss (The Cleveland Yachting Club, Cleveland, Ohio) | ||
| Joe Rating: N/A |
Rob: You say you carry your 155 to 15-17 true. Do you really mean apparent. That would mean you are seeing almost 25 across your nose! When you fatten the #1, how far off the spreaders do you have it? | ||
| Rob Weible Rating: N/A |
I really do mean true, at least as it appears on my factory-standard instruments, which may or may not be accurate. We'll go to as much as 6-8" off the spreaders, even more than that if it's so light and sloppy that we have to reach off a bit to keep the boat going. In the heavier breezes, we ease the sheets much less and tend to do the fattening in the bottom by moving the jib lead car a little forward. | ||
| Tom Seghi Rating: N/A |
I race in Florida and have UK tapedrive Kevlar sails which include #1,#2,#3. I rarely carry the #1 over 14 true and have used my #2 as much as my#1. We recently won first place overall PHRFS corrected on a long Miami to Key Largo race where we went through 3 sail changes and the #2 made the difference. We also won the Columbus Day regatta in our class recently due to starting with a #2 and eventually changing to #1 as wind got lighter. I was reluctant to buy the #2 at first, but it has proven beyond a reasonable doubt to our success story here in Biscayne Bay. It also has given the #1 a longer life expectancy by not pushing it above it's useful limitation. Tom..'Happy Apple' |
