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Mike Bergmann
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Posted on Saturday, July 31, 2004 - 02:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You might want to check with the mast builder - they can probably answer all your questions.
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Michael Dodson
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Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 - 01:27 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks to everyone who offered help here and in E-Mails. I have an Express 30 and asked the question here since the boats have similar rigs. I'm thinking my boat's shrouds might be run wrong but I'm not sure. If the 9.1 only has 1 hole in the upper spreader that doesn't help me at least in one regard. I'll have to check a little further. Many thanks.
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Jeff Roy
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Posted on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 09:01 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A side note on a related topic:

If you never remove the spreader caps you might want to take a good look at the machine screws holding them on next off-season.

When I bought my boat one of the machine screws was missing it's head, it appreently popped off. The upper shroud was poised to pop right out, which could result in the loss of a mast.

When I went to correct the problem I found all 8 of the screws were seriously corroded in the aluminum spreaders. 3 more of them snapped right off when I put an allen wrench on them. I was able to get all but one of the sutbs left of the screws out with a vice grip, but one of them snapped off at the base of the screw.

I tried to drill out the remains of the screw left in the spreader but that was impossible because the drill bit wandered into the softer aluminum. I had to drill around the screw to get it out and that left a hole so big that I could not tap it for any screw small enough to fit in the spreader cap.

I had to take the spreader to a machined shop and they filled the hole left from my attempts to remove the screw.

I then redrilled and tapped the spreader and, so far, all has been fine.

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Mike Bergmann
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Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2004 - 09:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks for the info. I take my mast down every year, but I mostly leave the shrouds and spreaders attached. Last year I removed the spreaders from the mast but left them attached to the shrouds.

I use sewn-on leather chafe material on my spreaders, so undoing the ends is a nuisance.

As I noted in an earlier post, I have permanently removed the halyard guard at the masthead. For anyone else considering that, I would also advise sewing a leather chafe guard around the toggle at the top of the forestay.
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Scott Corder
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Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2004 - 07:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The previous posts on this should be correct, as the uppper shroud does end up in the forward chainplate. The lower ends up on the inner chainplate, the intermediate on the remaining (aft, outer) chainplate.

Just a note: the spreader ends on my rig appear to make this an easy issue to resolve. The ends of my spreaders have slots that are clearly different in diameter - that is they are configured to clearly acccomodate only certain sized rod rigging (note that your rods are various diameter sizes). Also, the shroud that is "passing-through" at any given point should have a bullet-shaped "fat" part on the rod that aligns the rod with the corresponding spreader cap slot.

As I write this, it occurs to me that it might be possible to reverse the spreader end caps to confuse this issue, but my ends (I believe) really only allow the rods to pass through one way. At any rate, I never completely remove my spreader caps for three reasons: first, it keeps me from losing the caps or all the screws in the grass on our YC lawn. Second, it keeps me from accidentally reversing the caps (per this topic) and finally, it (among other tricks) helps this aging father to remember which way to re-attach the spreaders themselves each Spring when I re-assemble the rig after winter storage (something I spent some time pondering the first year I had to re-assemble the rig after storage).
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Mike Bergmann
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Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2004 - 11:03 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Michael

That is the way my boat is rigged. The upper diagonal goes through the only opening in the upper spreader and through the forward opening in the lower spreader. I run the upper to the outer hole in the forward chainplate, and the intermediate through the aft hole in the lower spreader to the aft chainplate.

I am not sure if this is critical or not, but I would definitely make sure both sides are done the same way.
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Michael Dodson
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Posted on Friday, July 23, 2004 - 02:19 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Greetings, I'd like to know what path the shrouds are supposed to take thru the spreaders down to the chainplates. For example is the upper shroud supposed to pass thru the forward hole in both spreaders and wind up in the forward chainplate hole? Thanks.

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